building a drag car?

[drunk_kev]

if i was to uld a dedicated drag car, what would i need to keep in the car?

do i build a car to suit a class or can i just build what ever?

[NZSHAKER]

Build to suit a class.....

Have a look at all the classes there are and then see what you want to do...

It all comes down to money really and how much you want to spend and how fast you want to go.

[Ben]

yeah, money is the big thing...... Getting to run reliable 11's will cost u close to 20k.

Get into the supercharged outlaw class... Run 8's :D

[fx160]

decide what you want to build and how
then check a rule book and see which class will suit you best
then build it to suit the rules

kev

[PROPSI]

WOW opened ended question.

It is what you are after?

state national LS record, FI/NA/unopened
personal achievement.
sports compact.

the list is endless, me personally would start with what I wanted out of my car. my goals would drive me in that direction!!!

IMO

[drunk_kev]

to be honest, i just wanted to see how fast i could get a humble V6 going.... with out moding the engine or adding forced induction...

i looked at the classes and there are shit loads....

[V8 Calais]

Without modifying the engine or forced induction its not worth doing really (thats just my opinion tho).

Like the only thing you can do really to it would be to drop weight (so strip the interior), then you could look at changing panels to fibreglass etc etc but the cost of that ud be better of just modifying the engine. or if you don't care about the engine just get a tank of nitrous and feed that into it. Should give you a fair few runs before going boom provided you don't feed it too much in one hit.

Talk to me on msn, i might have some ideas tommorow when im not upset about my own car lol..

[drunk_kev]

Without modifying the engine or forced induction its not worth doing really (thats just my opinion tho).

Like the only thing you can do really to it would be to drop weight (so strip the interior), then you could look at changing panels to fibreglass etc etc but the cost of that ud be better of just modifying the engine. or if you don't care about the engine just get a tank of nitrous and feed that into it. Should give you a fair few runs before going boom provided you don't feed it too much in one hit.

Talk to me on msn, i might have some ideas tommorow when im not upset about my own car lol..

well i was thinking...

weight reduction, change suspension(4 link) and diff ratio... maybe better tyres.. and see how fast it goes... after that, maybe start modding the engine

[V8 Calais]

A 4 link rear setup isn't cheap

If your doing it on the budget try diff gears and weight reduction then. I can't see it having traction issues with stock tyres. Just let them down abit and get heat into them.

You might be better off just buying an old rolling drag car that already has a 4 link setup, roll caged, lightened panels the glass removed etc etc. Donno it really depends on how fast your planning to go if you require a setup like that, and if your going that fast you'll also need a parachute and probably wheelie bars, front runners and a good set of rears list goes on. I can source all that kinda stuff if you need too.

[NZSHAKER]

The big question is what sort of car are u looking at using...

Big jim is going to be running 800rwhp though a stock rear end so why would u look at a 4 link, also Girch runs 899rwhp though a upgarded stock rear ends. i.e. bigger shafts, full spool.

So maybe give some more info like budget, car type u want to use, power u are looking at, times u want to run....the question u have asked is just far to open.

We may think u want to build a 8sec drag car but ur after a 10 sec car the difference between these 2 cars could be as much as $50k

[NZSHAKER]

Sorry Kev just re read one of ur posts, so ur only looking at using an unopen V6....not sure how many people would consider this a "Drag Car" more like a daily driver that you take to the track.

Without doing any work to it ur looking at 16's I guess maybe a 15 not really a drag car Kev....

[pvk308]

kev mate just have a look at my vk mate mine is a dedicated strip car street registered it doesnt have alot of big dollar parts just a smart use of parts available all it needs is the roll cage for 10s...... the guys are right a very open ended question and just like everything money is the key to how well you go

[drunk_kev]

yeah.. i guess it just comes down to money...

personally... i would be happy witrh something around the 12's..... maybe crack into 10's or something in a few years...

i wanna start with keeping the V6 stock...Once the car has been built up(or striped out) i'll look at working on the negine.. but i would like to see how fast i can get first with out modding the engine....

i wouldn't mind something like a VN to VR as they are a dime a dozen.....

i think i will take things slowly... i'll look at the simple classes available for V6's and gradually make my way up..

[V8 Calais]

Honestly...As its a 'drag car' you won't be registering it right?

So why not get a VN (they are everywhere, ive even got one stripped out im ready to get rid of soon), strip the guts out of it keeping the bare minimal required. Give it a home paint job inside and out, fit a single race seat, a good ratchet shifter and the required gauges.

Engine / driveline wise. I would go a carby V8. 308, injected 304 with a carby on, SBC etc, back it up with a turbo 350/400 and for the diff just mini-spool it and get some nissan pintara 4.11 gears to get you started. That'd be a cheap setup to start on

[drunk_kev]

Honestly...As its a 'drag car' you won't be registering it right?

So why not get a VN (they are everywhere, ive even got one stripped out im ready to get rid of soon), strip the guts out of it keeping the bare minimal required. Give it a home paint job inside and out, fit a single race seat, a good ratchet shifter and the required gauges.

Engine / driveline wise. I would go a carby V8. 308, injected 304 with a carby on, SBC etc, back it up with a turbo 350/400 and for the diff just mini-spool it to get you started. That'd be a cheap setup to get you started.


yeah thats close to pretty much what i wanna start with.... :)

[CalaisRider]

well i was thinking...

weight reduction, change suspension(4 link) and diff ratio... maybe better tyres.. and see how fast it goes... after that, maybe start modding the engine

Kev, it just aint worth the effort. Weight reduction and other stuff on a V6 isn't going to give the result I think your after. It is likely to be a lot of money for little outcome. I'm no expert but is the way I see it.

Just out of interest, what do you see as your project goal ET on the strip?

[NZSHAKER]

yeah.. i guess it just comes down to money...

personally... i would be happy witrh something around the 12's..... maybe crack into 10's or something in a few years...

i wanna start with keeping the V6 stock...


Honestly ur dreaming to think u will get an V6 stock into 12's

Man buy a cheap VT $6k build a nice strong mtr $6k good box $3500 add FI $6k 10's here we come.....

Oh yea but then with 10's comes cage, harness, and all those other goodies. :( it never bloody ends

[drunk_kev]

i don't wanna go out there to blow cars away.. i just wanna have fun :)

[NZSHAKER]

if i was to uld a dedicated drag car, what would i need to keep in the car?

do i build a car to suit a class or can i just build what ever?

to be honest, i just wanted to see how fast i could get a humble V6 going.... with out moding the engine or adding forced induction...

i looked at the classes and there are shit loads....

well i was thinking...

weight reduction, change suspension(4 link) and diff ratio... maybe better tyres.. and see how fast it goes... after that, maybe start modding the engine

yeah.. i guess it just comes down to money...

personally... i would be happy witrh something around the 12's..... maybe crack into 10's or something in a few years...

i wanna start with keeping the V6 stock...Once the car has been built up(or striped out) i'll look at working on the negine.. but i would like to see how fast i can get first with out modding the engine....

i wouldn't mind something like a VN to VR as they are a dime a dozen.....

i think i will take things slowly... i'll look at the simple classes available for V6's and gradually make my way up..

i don't wanna go out there to blow cars away.. i just wanna have fun :)


You really need to make up ur mind on what you want to do before you even think about starting this project, you have gone from Building a Drag car, to racing a humble unopened V6 to just wanting to go out and have fun. :confused:

How can people give you advice if you dont even know what you want.

If your going out to just have fun just take your daily out there and see what see runs, if that's not fun enough for you then go the next step and mod that car, no use building a drag car that does 15 sec pass might as well take a stock VN V8 down the track. :eek:

I don't want this to sound harsh but you seem to be changing your mind as people post up there thoughts....get a plan, try and stick to it as close as.

You need to know what you want to do b4 anyone else can give you advise or there thoughts to help you out.

Well thats my 2 cents :)






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[drunk_kev]

You really need to make up ur mind on what you want to do before you even think about starting this project, you have gone from Building a Drag car, to racing a humble unopened V6 to just wanting to go out and have fun.

How can people give you advice if you dint even know what you want.

If your going out to just have fun just take your daily out there and see what see runs, if thats not fun enough for you then go the next step and mod that car, no use building a drag car that does 15 sec pass might as well take a stock VN V8 down the track.

I dont want this to sound harsh but you seem to be changing your mind as people post up there thoughts....get a plan, try and stick to it as close as.

You need to know what you want to do b4 anyone else can give you advise or there thoughts to help you out.

Well thats my 2 cents






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your right... i don't know what i want.. i guess that is why i started the thread.. to help me understand what i would need in order to work out what i want

i will do research on what is around and look harder at what i want to achieve and than go from there

Thank you for all the help guys :)

[galaga]

Cant wait to see where this project ends up Kev. Keep us informed on your decisions...always wanted to do something like this.

[pvk308]

kev mate have a look at whats out there when you go to the drags have a look at cars and chat to the owners about what they have done write it all down and then come up with a build plan and go from there mate good luck mate

[Ben]

If it helps, im aiming for mid to high 12's with the calais. Thats after putting a cam in it, and running a gt35/40 turbo on it, 3:9 gears. Doing the cam first, seeing if i can break into the mid 14's with the cam. then go for broke with the turbo. Looking at spending $7k by the time its done, and thats for 12's

[V8 Calais]

Any progress on this yet?