modifiction plate

[blown vess]

wondering if you guys know if i need a mod plate for my car for the supercharger some say yes and some say no as im contesting the fine a got a couple of saturdays ago and the car has for a inspection?

[EQUIPE-T]

i think it does, as it didnt come out with a supercharger

[blown vess]

thats what i thought but the guys who installed it said it didnt as capa chargers are adr approved last thing i need is to fail the inspection

[CRAIG]

yeah I'm pretty sure it does have to have one what did you get fined for

[EQUIPE-T]

thats what i thought but the guys who installed it said it didnt as capa chargers are adr approved last thing i need is to fail the inspection

first time iv heard that something doesnt need a mod plate cause its ADR approved i must admit :confused: does that mean i can put a V6 into a HQ, cause the V6 is ADR approved lol thats just weird lol

[V8 Calais]

Requires a modification plate because it didn't come out like that from the factory / wasn't a factory option.

EG. Race Seats, they must be ADR approved but you also require a mod plate once they are fitted too the vecihle.

[blown vess]

yeah I'm pretty sure it does have to have one what did you get fined for

Got fined after a wet night from auto barn going up a hill slipped a little. basicly got treated like shit lost my temper 3 cop cars and over 2 hours on the side of the road

[EQUIPE-T]

thats what i thought but the guys who installed it said it didnt as capa chargers are adr approved last thing i need is to fail the inspection

if it turns out you do need a plate, tell the cops that these fella's said you didnt, cops and DOT would love to have a conversation with them

[blown vess]

yep just spoke to chris from h/t he is going have 1 done while the car is there

[CRAIG]

did they defect it

[blown vess]

no thats why its going for an inspection to see if it complies

[V8 Calais]

Get the mod plate fitted and you'll be covered then. The plate can go anywhere so long as its not on a removable panel. Could technically fit it too the boot and if they say you didn't have one before just go "I rang up and they said it was fitted in the boot I didn't know it was there". Depends which way you want to go about it really. Mod plate covers you.

[416SS]

Know what it feels like Brad.. But i didnt need a mod plate and you cant say that the 416ci comes out standard in the SS.. I'm not sure on the rules but i had my car at the Stafford Police station after the 416 went in and all i needed was the surrogate engine number so i could stamp it on the new block.. Hence why i was at the station.

Had an inspection bout 2 weeks ago and i told the officer there was a 6.8l in it and he didnt even blink twice. Sick and tired of different rules for different areas....:(

[blown vess]

yeah depends if you get an a-hole or not

[Darren]

you will need a LA3 mod plate (turbo or supercharger installation)

and just for the record ANY engine substitution that was not a factory option for that vehicle, needs a LA1 mod plate. Whether you get defected for not having a mod plate comes down to the individual officers discretion and/or knowledge...

[blown vess]

you will need a LA3 mod plate (turbo or supercharger installation)

and just for the record ANY engine substitution that was not a factory option for that vehicle, needs a LA1 mod plate. Whether you get defected for not having a mod plate comes down to the individual officers discretion and/or knowledge...

your shitting me

[416SS]

you will need a LA3 mod plate (turbo or supercharger installation)

and just for the record ANY engine substitution that was not a factory option for that vehicle, needs a LA1 mod plate. Whether you get defected for not having a mod plate comes down to the individual officers discretion and/or knowledge...

Had no idea.. I asked so many questions before and during the engine build and got told nothing about that.. Thanks Darren..
So if i was to sell the car would i need that, or could i not worry about it.??

[Darren]

Had no idea.. I asked so many questions before and during the engine build and got told nothing about that.. Thanks Darren..
So if i was to sell the car would i need that, or could i not worry about it.??

In theory yes.
depends on the guy who does the safety certificate inspection for you when you sell. If he realises the engine isn't the factory engine, he may not pass the car until it gets a mod plate (part of a safety inspection is to ensure any modifications that require plating are plated accordingly). However most people probably wouldn't pick it, as it looks factory.

But for the cost of a mod plate, it probably might be worth doing. From what I can gather the engine transplant is fairly much a straight swap, and you've no doubt got some big brakes - so shouldn't be an issue.

[416SS]

Thanks Darren for letting me know about it.. Feel like i spoke to brick walls about everything when i was looking into it before.

[Darren]

Thanks Darren for letting me know about it.. Feel like i spoke to brick walls about everything when i was looking into it before.

can be a bit like that at times...
glad to help

[PROPSI]

Now for the big question...............

Who should we speak to, to have our cars made legal??????????????

cheers
Paul

[blown vess]

i am phoning modifications tomorrow to find out as these guys are getting tuffer on us due to wankers we have been reading about

[Darren]

i am phoning modifications tomorrow to find out as these guys are getting tuffer on us due to wankers we have been reading about

that's a good place to start.
if you can't get the modifications number I will get it for you tomorrow. Just be prepared, they aren't always the most helpful bunch, but it is a good place to start.

Also there are various guides on the QT website. For example the modifications brochure http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/resources/file/ebde8d0521b67c6/Pdf_modification_motor_vehicles2.pdf, the AIS code of practice & vehicle safety standards legislation. All the links should be located in the sticky thread I put at the top of this section

[VP Pursuit]

Sometimes they are Darren, I rang them a few weeks ago to confirm the fact my wagon is an S pac wont affect the V8 conversion and that I wont need a mod plate.

They advised me that based on a 1992 Commodore S Pac Wagon I can put a 304 with either an auto or a manual cause specificly the 1992 S Pac was optioned with a V8 and there are factoy V8 Spac's around.

[blown vess]

so how do hsv get mod plates for their s/c cars as do hdt because in the last week i have also seen the spec sheets of hdt and it is in their build brochure

[VP Pursuit]

HSV and HDT are both considered manufacturers...as a result a Mob plate isnt needed by them if its a factory HSV / HDT. When HSV / HDT relase a S/c car they put get the car from Holden without the master Vin plate (Black Plate with the Vin Number and HSV/HDT stamp) and HSV/HDT add these plates themselves with the VIN number provided by Holden then report back to holden on what they have installed into said car.



If its a SS that you bought and sent to HSV / HDT to be modded then a mod plate is still needed.

[blown vess]

so can said cops question ths

[Darren]

yeah what Chris said.
HSV/HDT are considered a factory released car, so no mod plates are required as the vehicles are built in accordance to ADR standards.

and cops won't question it. If they do, any defect they might issue will be withdrawn if contested with evidence supporting the fact that the supercharger etc was factory fitted

[VP Pursuit]

In the case of HSV/HDT they would put the appropiate engine code on the tag, the engine codes used by GM differ for NA engines to FI engines and they use the same code across the company.

I have seen Police particully around Capalaba and Cleveland with a list of codes used by GM for engine, they also had the Mitsubishi list when I had my Magna way back when casue that had an engine from a 1992 in a 1988 and I was issued a notice for driving a vehical with unauthorised mods.

I have also found that the 50 around here have a very good knowlage of cars and know one end from the other. There is also a officer from thetraffic branch thay works and lives around here, he drives an unmarked car and he is the go-to for all questions relating to Holdens for the area.

[blown vess]

spoken to modifications yes do have get mod plate and he also told me some otr's also need mod plates as they are designed for track use not road use?

[pvk308]

Any bolt on engine mod eg superchargers turbo etc that is not factory standard will need the mod plate plus the engine with the mod will have to meet or be better than the ADR engine emissions standard for that vehicle or otherwise it wont pass and thats the reason why they want it inspected. From previous experience with my VK have the mod plate, the paper work to show who did the mods plus your ADR emissions complience with you at all times in the car saves all the hassles. Plus they are going to be alot harder on a VE (sorry to say mate) than they would an early girl good luck mate dont let it dampen your spirits

[PROPSI]

Has anyone got a good person to deal with in regards to getting a plate.

I have have heard some are just to hard to deal with and aren't worth speaking with.

Need some names people..........

[pvk308]

I know of one bloke, hes the guy that does all my gear but hes tough. My brother works with him building stall converters etc but hes on holidays let me get back to you mate

[blown vess]

the are all tough on mod plates as if you get done and does not comply they lose their licenes

[stealthvn/mr vr ss]

taren at all dyno tuning redcliffe he did mates supercharged vs v8 ute no dramas and darrens vs v6

[pvk308]

the are all tough on mod plates as if you get done and does not comply they lose their licenes

Yeh fair point, my guy is an importer and can get anything passed plus it helps that he is on a first name basis with DOT....... it was funny when the DOT pulled me over in the Vk they looked at all my paper work, saw his name and then said " be on your way mate". It doews pay to go to some one reputable though to many dodgy buggers i know form working in the mod feild on the side form my other job